Thursday, July 7, 2016

Hacked messages reveal Obama admin’s plan for ‘summer of chaos’ and martial law

Hacked messages of #BlackLivesMatter leader reveal Obama admin’s plan for ‘summer of chaos’ and martial law

U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch is coordinating with Democratic activists to so disrupt the upcoming Republican and Democratic National Conventions that martial law will be declared.
That’s the stunning discovery revealed in a series of direct messages between three activists.
On Friday, June 10, 2016, someone hacked into the Twitter account of #BlackLivesMatter (BLM) leader and former Baltimore mayoral candidateDeRay McKesson. McKesson later confirmed the hack to The Baltimore Sun.
On June 11, 2016, a Twitterer who calls himself The Saint (@TheSaintNegro) tweeted a direct-message conversation on June 10 between KcKesson and another BLM leader Johnetta Elzie (Netta), in which the two discussedtalking with Attorney General Loretta Lynch about plans to bring on martial law by causing chaos at the upcoming Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio, and the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, PA, so as to keep Obama in office.
Deray Mckesson & Johnetta ElzieHere’s the conversation over the course of several days between black activists DeRay McKesson (DM) and Johnetta Elzie (JE), and between McKesson and a “white ally” named Sam (S):
JE: “Have you spoken with Mrs. Lynch [Attorney General Loretta Lynch] recently about the plan for the summer and fall leading up to the elections.
DM: “We spoke two weeks and they want us to start really pushing how racist Trump is now instead of waiting so the others can start getting the protesters ready to shut both conventions down.
DM: “If we can get both conventions shut down for messing over Bernie and for having racist Trump, then get martial law declared so Obama can stay in office we will win. Call you soon when I get to my dads so I can use his landline and we can talk more on this.”
DM: “We have to make sure that we use our voices to keep people disrupting Trump all summer and through the fall so martial law can be declared….”
S: “I wanted to touch base with you about the summer of chaos. So far we have over 2,000 people bused in from different cities and another 6,000 to 8,000 expected to drive into Cleveland for the Convention.”
S: “They will not be ready for the crowds we are bringing and they will blame Trump for it, especially if we shut it down. The GOP will have to replace him at that point or we will continue the disruptions nationwide.
DM: “I will pass the info along. Good work, Sam. You never let us down. It’s so important we stop Trump. He can not be president.He will destroy everything we worked so hard for and we can’t trust….”
DM: “…today and he [Sam?] confirmed that there will be around 10,000 protesters disrupting the [Republican] convention. Plans are being made for other cities as well for upcoming Trump events. Ads have already been placed looking for people to help. I know you don’t care for them [white people] but this is the time we need our white allies doing a lot of the work for us. They are the ones who listen the best.”
JE: “That will put fear into the GOP and the country when they can’t have their convention for all their racist supporting Trump. We’ve worked too hard and closely with the Obama administration to have that racist ass take it all away and Hillary…. You know I can’t stand those white allies, but yo right this is the best to use them. They hang on every word you say and will do whatever is asked. I just hate all that kiss ass they try to do. Like that changes who they are.”
DM: “We have a lot of white allies volunteering for Trump’s campaign to pass along information to us before it’s made public so we know when rallies are coming up before they are announced. That way we can plan major disruptions in those cities in advance. We just have to keep our names out of this and let these [white] people do the work for us by pushing how Trump’s racist ways will destroy….”
JE: “That’s all those white people are good for in my eyes. I couldn’t imagine even pretending to like that racist ass Trump even to get info on his events. I’ll be glad when we shut his ass down.”
DM: “With the support we have from Mrs. Lynch and the help we’ve got from Sam and others it won’t be hard to cause enough….”
Here are screenshots of The Saint‘s series of tweets:
DeRay DM1cDeRay DM1aDeRay DM1bDeRay DM2DeRay DM3DeRay DM4The authorities seem to be taking the plan to disrupt the Republican Convention seriously.
As reported by Alice Speri for The Intercept, June 23, 2016, local police and federal agents from the FBI, DHS, and Secret Service are knocking on the doors of activists and community organizers in Cleveland asking about their plans for the Republican National Convention in July.
On June 29, 2016, Deray McKesson sort of confirmed the plan when he went public with warnings about “possible” protests at the DNC and RNC, as reported by USA Today.
In fact, a recent survey showed that as many as 67% of Democrats want Obama for a third term.
See also:
H/t FOTM‘s Hadenoughalready & maziel
~Eowyn

66 comments:

  1. Gotta love Dr. Eowyn.
    Thanks for keeping us informed Dr. Fetzer!!
    We can hope this exposure means these plans will fail.

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  2. Riots will not give Obama a third term; and they might very well give Trump the election as he can come across much more as a law and order president than either Obama or Hilary. Anyway this is all nonsense. It will simply disrupt people's lives and injure and perhaps kill some people. These persons are very misguided. Obama did nothing for the blacks.

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  3. Not buying it at all.

    The spelling and punctuation was too close to accurate in most cases to have been private correspondence between two 70-IQ, Black degenerates.

    Nope...

    >>... "Good work, Sam.

    I'm expected to accept that a 70-IQer put that comma between "work" and "Sam"?
    Puh-leeee-ze!

    >>... JE: That will put fear into the GOP and the country when they can’t have their convention for all their racist supporting Trump.

    She put the apostrophe in "can't", got the correct form of "their", and... wrote "racist" instead of "racis"?

    In a pig's eye!

    Most propagandistic shit you can learn to see through just by applying good, ol' common sense and the knowledge you've gained simply by living in the world for 3 or more decades. (In my case, 5+.)

    I don't know who put this together, or precisely why, but it's a load of horse-pucky.

    ~ D-FensDogG
    'Loyal American Underground'

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  4. Well, now we have another shooting in Dallas, the 33rd parallel, on 7/7/ 1+6 right after this prescient article was posted.
    Dr. Eowyn and Jim are a bit too clairvoyant for my taste...

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  5. Where's the evidence that the exchange is real? The Baltimore Sun link says they he was hacked - it says nothing about this exchange.

    I'll make 2 wild predictions:
    1. There is no evidence. The hack who made all of this up isn't even very good at it. To wit:

    "If we can get both conventions shut down for messing over Bernie and for having racist Trump, then get martial law declared so Obama can stay in office we will win. "

    Really? The only thing missing is a twirling mustache...



    2. When martial law is not declared and Obama's presidency is not extended, you guys will never acknowledge that you made these ridiculous predictions just like Jade Helm and Hobbit homes and UN takeovers and Clinton extending his presidency and Bush extending his presidency on and on it goes.

    You guys are literally batting .000 - what a joke.

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    1. Yep. The very same things were frequently said about Clinton and George W(ish i had a brain) Bush when they were about to leave office. (They were going to declare Martial Law in order to remain in power.) Naturally, it did not happen, nor will it happen with Barack Oliar.

      First of all, there is no legal grounds for a president remaining in power by declaring Martial Law after his term has TERMinated. Period.

      Secondly, and more importantly, if they actually attempted such a thing, they would lose control of the country. Everything they've been achieving, step-by-step, since 1913, would be lost in a single act. And make no mistake about it, The Wizards Behind The Curtain know perfectly well if they ever JUST ONCE overplay their hand and widespread national rioting occurs -- with angry White men locked and loaded -- they will NEVER AGAIN re-gain control like they have today.

      The Wizards carefully walk a tightrope; they have invested way too much time, thought and energy to lose it all now by inciting everyone across the USA to go total "William D-Fens Foster" on them. No military troops could save their asses, and every government official would eventually be hung by their balls or breasts in a public square. They know this and we know this.

      I wear my "tinfoil hat" proudly, but for crying-out-loud, even us "conspiracy kooks" need to use a little discernment!

      Yeah, The Wizards Behind The Curtain are going to entrust a bunch of sub-literate Black Marxists to apply the coup de grâce to the last vestiges of American liberty. RIGHT! And I was born yesterday to President Thomas Jefferson!

      At this point, I'm not even sure why I'm still bothering to follow this site. They do post some quality stuffs frequently enough, but every time I have to wade through patently, on-its-surface, paranoid nonsense like THIS blog bit, I wonder if it's worth my time to continue checking in.

      I think it was the promoting of FDR as some kind of American hero that really started souring my whole attitude about these sources.

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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    2. "Everything they've been achieving, step-by-step, since 1913"

      This is some long-term conspiracy! 1913? Isn't that just ridiculous?

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    3. BLM is a communist front group. wake the hell up, dude!

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    4. Stephen, I am very glad you "check in" with this site. I appreciate your commentary very much. I remember back when Bush Sr. was going I was sure he wouldn't hand over power. I was foolish and didn't know what a double crook Clinton was.
      The powers and their conspiracies are like spaghetti strands all lumped together but with different agendas. My hope is that there is a greater chef up there and a higher purpose (re-establishing community and family as the basis of happiness instead of consumerism?)
      There might be folks who do want Obama to "declare the elections void" but I think you are right. There were folks who were sure we would be at war with Syria over the false flag chemical attacks "red line" and they didn't get their way.
      Love your response to Steve 12, I am sorry he is back as he is disruptive and has been an effective hijacker of the time of smart people like you.
      I am the biggest Fetzer fan there is, and still don't agree with him on everything. It took Chance and I ganging up on him for him to look closely at the disclosure project and at least analyze it.
      Please keep contributing!

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  6. As predicted, all bullshit:
    http://www.snopes.com/deray-mckesson-and-the-summer-of-chaos/

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    1. >>... This is some long-term conspiracy! 1913? Isn't that just ridiculous?

      No. What's ridiculous is a person who pretends to have some political insight yet fails to understand the far-reaching and devastating effect of The Federal Reserve System, while at the same time believing that a Libtard website like Snopes, run by political propagandist hacks, has any credibility about... ANYTHING.

      Back to sleep. And don't forget to take your teddy bear with you so you don't toss 'n' turn.

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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    2. Stephen: I agree with many things you write but the government operates in ultra vires and not by consent.

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    3. You're loons, that's the problem....

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  7. Stephen: Also, the power elite occultists of one degree or the other are operating under the decree of externalization of the hierarchy. As Hildebeast stated: "What difference does it make."

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  8. Stephen: Also, the power elite occultists of one degree or the other are operating under the decree of externalization of the hierarchy. As Hildebeast stated: "What difference does it make."

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    1. DAVID ~
      I know that BLM is a Communist front group. So is the ACLU and a whole bunch of other organizations I could name. And I also know that some of them are being used to incite violence. But that doesn't mean this article was correct in its primary assertion that these violent episodes are all aiming toward a declaration of Martial Law so Barack Oliar can remain in the White House after his term expires.

      I'm disputing the article's primary point, NOT every single detail related to every single person mentioned in it.

      And of course the government operates ultra vires. Nearly EVERYTHING the government does would be denounced as "un-Constitutional" by our founding fathers. And that's as illegal as something can get, since the Constitution declares itself "the supreme law of the land".

      And I know all about the Luciferian background that the Wizards are operating in. The Freemason, Theosophical, Rosicrucian, Illuminati, New Age Occult connections to government. That's THE BIG PICTURE.

      But sometimes it's hard enough just getting the average Americonned Sheeple to understand how corrupt, how evil their government is, even without trying to explain to them "The Big Picture", which necessarily requires a spiritual (and I'd say Biblical) understanding.

      I don't know that you and I particularly disagree on anything. (At least not that I've seen in this thread so far.) But you're making the mistake of reading things INTO what I say, which I have not said -- while also assuming I'm completely unaware of things I have not mentioned, simply because I have not mentioned them.

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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    2. Stephen, what do you mean by "communist?" I hear people use that term and it seems to just be a pejorative catch all. Real communism (community ownership of common wealth) would be a great thing if applied to the Military and prisons, like it is to the fire department. Governments who have called themselves communist were simply fronts for the same slavers that use "capitalism." Our allowing "profit motives" to undermine our "common" needs, like defense, incarceration, health care and policing is the most destructive element of our society, perhaps excepting religion.
      It seems to say "communist front group" just divides us in to camps like "liberal" and "conservative." I think if it is a "front group" it is a front group for very evil "capitalist" banksters and corporations (the ones Jefferson warned us were more dangerous than standing armies) not for whatever communism is supposed to be (an ideology? Philosophy? System of Government? Convenient term to label ones enemies? Anti free market? Russian? Chinese?)
      I am not being rhetorical, I really would like to know because I hear a lot of smart people like you use the word to describe many different things, from BLM to flouride. I think it is corporatism that is the real evil.
      Thanks for your comments.

      Moderator, Steve 12 is back and up to his old tricks. If he continues to bait people like Stephen in to spending their time believing he is genuine and then wasting it responding, I hope there is something we can do.

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    3. A2 ~
      I will surely respond to your comment above. Probably won't happen though until sometime this coming Monday-Wednesday.

      No problem between us at all. I understand what you are saying and I will give you my outlook on it.

      As for STEVE 12, here's my .02 cents: He's an obvious Uncle Scam shill. I knew it in a heartbeat. (I can spot these traitorous pr!x immediately. I have a lot of experience in debating our Republic's enemies.)

      I don't spend much time on the shills, but I do put them in their place rather quickly. They're easy, because they're obvious frauds. (The tough ones are those who are sincere, and you WANT to open their eyes, but they've been brainwashed by Uncle Scam for so long that you really have your work cut out for you.)

      I wouldn't waste too much of my time on a "Steve 12", but I do enjoy giving them an uppercut or two just because they know nuttin' and have no originality.

      Only once did I ever come across an Uncle Scam shill who was pretty good at what he did. He concentrated on the "ChemTrails" issue and did a fairly decent job of confusing the issue for some genuine Americans. I knew he was a shill right from the get-go, but I could at least respect the fact that Uncle Scam, for once, was getting its money's worth out of a shill who was more skilled than the others.

      A guy like STEVE 12 doesn't bother me and I don't mind smacking them around once in awhile, when I have the spare time to do so. They can't ever win, so it's like turning down the opportunity to belt a 90-pound weakling who's just called you a derogatory name. Who can resist that opportunity?

      So, no need to take any action on my account.

      Later, A2.

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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    4. Thanks Stephen, I get you. Steve 12 used to hijack people with hundreds (literally) of meaningless off topic tyrades on this site. I have been glad he was gone. I look forward to hearing more from you, thanks for the reply.

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    5. "A guy like STEVE 12 doesn't bother me and I don't mind smacking them around once in awhile, when I have the spare time to do so"

      HA HA HA!!!! Oh, that is rich! I went to your blog. You're an idiot. At some level I think you have to know this.The things you believe in are so dumb considering the shitty evidence you site. American Underground - LOL.

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  9. Stephen: My original comment wake up dude was to Steve 12 not you.

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    1. I thought that might be the case but it wasn't entirely clear.

      ~ D-FensDogG

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    2. I would also write it isn't just gov. schills but ADL Bnai/Birith stooges that monitor/disrupt places like this.

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  10. AA: Good grief man. George Soros is a Hungarian Jew that promotes Marxism/Bolshevism/Communism and he is funding BLM. The Bolshevic Revolution was a Jewish revolution against Christianity and mankind. 60 million died in the most oppressive regime of all time. It's the power elite diving Americans, not Americans using terms like Communism.

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    1. Hi David, thanks for the thoughts. What I don't get is how Soros has anything to do with Marxist philosophy. Marx was a good guy, who basically said that the people who work are more important than the feudal lords that exploit them.
      Soros is a feudal lord "capitalist" of the worst sort. He just made millions "shorting" Deutchbank which had nothing to do with making, growing or building anything.
      So I am more confused than ever. How can a raging exploiter and extractor of the fruits of other peoples labor like Soros be a marxist or a communist? I don't even think the terms are really compatible. It's like saying "non violent terrorist" or "fascist socialist."
      I wish you would comment on the profit motive in common areas being destructive. I have on good sources that "war profiteer" used to be a bad thing! Now they become the vice president and go to war to save their failing corporation.
      War is good for business in that model, just like illness is good for the Pharma corporate model, so they create more of it. (prisoners are good for business if prisons are for profit, so they lobby... with OUR money.. for more prisoners!) If they could, they would "privatize" fire departments and guess what would be good for business then?
      So David, rather than using "communist" as an epithet describing people, could you define the epithet further?
      Sincerely,
      PS I mostly agree with your comments by the way. Especially about the dividing people to conquer us strategy. I love Guns, God and Gays, am I left or right? :) I was a Bernie delegate who will vote for Trump because of Trade, War and Vaccine poisons. Am I a socialist or a right winger? I think Hillary Clinton AND George Bush are evil fu@ks, am I a republican or a democrat?
      I believe I am a human, and that the domestic enemy I swore to defend the constitution against is best personified in Goldman Sachs. So much for labels!

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  11. Remember: The elites want the best that Capitalism and Socialism provides and gives the worst aspects of Capitalism and Socialism to the masses.

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    1. Boy that sums it up. Privatize the profits, and socialize the losses.

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  12. I'd say you are an independent. I am pro worker's rights and pro environment and I am voting for Trump.

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  13. It is important to realize that someone has floated Dr Eowyn's piece. Whoever was responsible is of secondary importance; someone is up to no good. That is the issue. The bodies who should investigate and accurately report are not! This should be clarified in the MSM in a responsible manner. It is not. Prof. Tracy has been abominably treated. Who, in the appropriate position, has set out to sort out this issue, follow through and see prosecution to its proper end. To see correct civil damages and to effect the needed changes in Administration at County, State, Federal and U. N. levels. This is serious stuff as are the many issues rightly presented at this blog.

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  14. I think this is BS. It doesn't read like a real chat to me.

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  15. "BLM is a communist front group. wake the hell up, dude!"

    And like all of the other claims you morons make, there is no proof of this. You guys just choose to believe whatever you want to believe.

    But the idea that this has been a plot 103 years in the making - that's jut so unspeakably stupid that there are no words. Believing that and being of above average intelligence are truly mutually exclusive.

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    1. There is an article at RBN that clearly demonstrates who is funding MLB.

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  16. Hey David - still have your racist youtube link up ha?

    https://www.youtube.com/user/dnsteel1974

    I guess you don't care who knows at Mont Bell Academy. YOu should

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    1. Google does not match for this search. Your act of desperation is pathetic.

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    2. HA HA HA! This youtube channel is linked to YOUR name above you dolt. When I click on "David Norton" above, it takes me to your google + account. When I go to the "about" tab in your google+, it has a link to YOUR detestably racist youtube channel, namely:

      https://www.youtube.com/user/dnsteel1974

      As far as the Montgomery Bell goes, that one I can't be 100% sure, fair enough. But you're going to tell me that the resident Conspiracy Theory expert at Mont Bell is also named David Norton, but isn't you? Come on. I have proof (above) that you LIED about the youtube channel.

      https://www.facebook.com/RollRedRoll/photos/a.491817622825.262144.94857817825/10153361605347826/?type=3&theater

      I think MBA should know that they employ an antisemite. If I was Jewish and paid a LOT of $ for my kid to go to MBA, I wouldn't want someone like you near my kid, you fucking racist sicko. I feel that I need to fill them in.

      Mod take note: taking this down will deprive David of information that's he's going to need, so I suggest leaving this one up....


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  17. So when the Jews / UN - with all of the firepower of all of the world's combined militaries - come to put you in the camp they've been planning since 1913, you'll fight them with your AR-15s because they haven't taken your guns away.

    It's hard to know what the dumbest part of that sentence is. SMH at the shear stupidity. Some of you might be schizophrenic - then OK. But for the rest, you gotta be DUMB to buy an of this. Ain't no fixing dumb I guess...

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    1. People have already been put in camps in Russia and guns were taken away to the citizens. I think it is time the moderator revoke your ability to post here.

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    2. As technology has increased the gap b/w regular firearms and what the military is capable of has increased concomitantly. You cannot fight the military with regular firearms. If you think you can, you're A. dumb or B. deceiving yourself so that you can continue to believe your paranoid nonsense.

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    3. Did US beat Iraq in their last war? All the US did was oust Iraq's leader, balkanize the country and create civil war.

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    4. WTF are you talking about? The US military won't fight full on because the public won't have it. If we engaged in a WWII level invasion of course we would win. And for this conspiracy, why would the conspirators (i.e., the Jeeeewwwwwssss) pull their punches? Why?

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  18. >>... "I went to your blog. You're an idiot. At some level I think you have to know this. The things you believe in are so dumb considering the shitty evidence you site."
    ~ Steve12


    SITE: the position or location of a town, building, etc., especially as to its environment:
    the site of our summer cabin.


    to place in or provide with a site; locate.

    CITE: to quote (a passage, book, author, etc.), especially as an authority:
    He cited the Constitution in his defense.
    ~ Dictionary.com


    >>... "It's hard to know what the dumbest part of that sentence is. SMH at the shear stupidity. [...] you gotta be DUMB to buy an of this. Ain't no fixing dumb I guess..."
    ~ Steve12


    SHEAR: to remove by or as if by cutting or clipping with a sharp instrument:
    to shear wool from sheep.


    SHEER: unqualified; utter:
    sheer nonsense.
    ~ Dictionary.com


    There is NOTHING more ironically funny than having an illiterate person, who doesn't even have a junior high school grasp of basic English, tell you how dumb, idiotic, and stupid you are. That is REALLY funny!

    Steve12, here's what I want you to do: Go back to elementary school and tell the school administrators that THIS TIME you refuse to allow them to move you up to junior high school until you are able to pass the basic English class with AT LEAST a "C" grade. Will you do that for me?

    Afterwards, return here, show us all your report card with at least a "C" grade in English, and then you may resume telling us all how "dumb", "idiotic" and SHEER "stupid" we are.

    Henceforth, you shall be known not as Steve12 but as "Steve6Grade".

    Have a nice day, Steve6Grade!

    ~ D-FensDogG
    'Loyal American Underground'

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  19. Stephen, David, Activist Angel and other good folks.
    I am leaving Steve12's comments up here because you all had such interesting responses, but know that he is not welcome here and his future posts will be deleted. I waited to see if he would do anything other than goad people in to spending their time on him, but he has nothing valuable to say or contribute, as usual.
    Thanks for the entertaining repartee.

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    1. Awww, that's too bad. I had an A-List E-Ticket reply in mind for his last comment to me, but I wouldn't have found time for it until tomorrow.

      Well, the good news is that there's always another illiterate, 90-pound weakling Uncle Scam shill right around the next corner!
      [:o)

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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    2. Can't win on content - on to the Type-Os!!!!!

      What...a....loser.....


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    3. All right, Steve 12, I will have a go at you before you slither away.
      First of all, dumb ass, they were not "typos" you disgusting shill. You did not know the difference between sheer and shear, site and cite. All the while you are calling others dumb! You are dumb and a liar!
      Also the people you defend and work for regularly rape, murder and poison children. That makes you an accessory to murder and child rape. So let's just assume you participate in the rituals and are a child rapist/murderer yourself.
      Your fellow rapists and murderers at the top are not really "jews." Like all slavers they use religion as a tool to manipulate and divide. They are pally pals with their fellow rapists at the top of "christianity" and "Islam" as well. The king of Saudi Arabia and Antonin Scalia are all equally vile... just like you! Calling themselves "wahabbi" or "catholic" has nothing to do with their purchase and use of innocent children as sex slaves and organ transplant gardens.
      Your claim that they were "typos" is just the simplest manifestation of your deep lies and support of the most vile elements of the corporate and religious terrorists masquerading as our media and softening us with their war strategy of poisons in the air, water and vaccines.
      I almost wish their bullshit were true, cause that would mean you will go to hell. Since hell is a state of mind and you are a psychopath, you might even sleep at night. That's why we need people like Jim Fetzer and the other smart folks that visit his blog to be brave and vigilant; poison slime like you and your fellow child rapists are running around without a shred of conscience and all are in danger because of you.
      You are cursed, Steve 12. Feel it in your bones. Soak the knowledge in past your broken empathy until it haunts your dreams with demons.
      Then go watch the movie Ghandi and pay attention to the "I know a way out of hell" scene, though you are likely way past redemption in this life.

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    4. Whoops! Looks like The Moderator has put little Stevie6Grade in "Time Out".

      He should enjoy the rest, since it was clear that Uncle Sam was NEVER EVER going to let that poor propagandist clock out.

      Now he'll have more time for "SHEARING STUPIDITY" and ​SEDUCING SHEEP.

      I, for one though, will miss him. He was fun to toy with.

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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  20. Moderator, you are so right. Stephen promised me a reply to my questions and all he has done is respond to Steve 12! His insidious hijacking of a sharp mind like Stephen is depriving me and this site of dialogue I was looking forward to!
    All Steve 12 does is call people names and incite anger. I remember the days of his and that other ass clown having hundreds of BS comments per post.... It kept me away. Even now I am writing about him instead of something useful.

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    1. A2 ~
      The promised reply is coming. However, it requires more time and thought, while I am able to respond quickly, off-the-cuff, to an illiterate bozo like Steve6Grade.

      In fact, I think my reply to you might be better suited for private Email correspondence. Your choice. I know your E-addy due to your videos.

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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    2. Thanks Stephen. I have been totally overwhelmed with emails! A good thing I suppose but I am not particularly fond of the medium. I would love it if you posted here so others could see your reply too.
      It really is a genuine question...

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  21. >>... "You got me!!!! I spelled a word incorrectly."
    ~ Steve12 (aka Steve6Grade)


    Actually, and surprisingly, your spelling doesn't seem to be an issue. You just have a basic English vocabulary problem (e.g., you don't know the difference between "site" and "cite", between "shear" and "sheer", and God only knows what else you don't know!)

    Also, apparently your math skills suck. You see, "a word" implies ONE. But when you screw up more times than ONCE, we call that "plural" and add an "s". So it would become "I used wordS incorrectly."

    "HI! MY NAME IS STEVE AND I AM IN THE THIS MANY GRADE. YOU WANNA BE MY BEST FRIEND?"

    Where you been, Steve6Grade? Been off "siting evidence" and "shearing stupidity"?

    Baa, baa, black sheep,
    Have you any stupidity?
    Yes, sir, yes, sir,
    Steve6Grade sheared three bags full.

    Steve, we can only let you "shear stupidity", as you can't be trusted around sheep. You know how naughty you 6th grade boys can be!

    Look, I told you before, this is the BIG TABLE for the GROWN-UPS only! If you want to participate in ADULT CONVERSATIONS you need to improve your vocabulary first. (Seems you need work on math, too!) Go get that "C" in 6th grade English, then come back and we'll see if we can let you play. I know you want so desperately to be a "real boy", but as long as you remain a basic English drop-out puppet who doesn't even know that 1+1=2, we're embarrassed by your presence here.

    Go away now. That's a good puppet!

    ~ D-FensDogG
    'Loyal American Underground'

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    Activist Angel ~
    This will be a lengthy (probably multi-part) comment that will likely go off-topic somewhat. Don't blame me, Brother, as I offered to Email it instead, right? I'll begin by saying I sense you're a good guy and I believe in your sincerity. If I didn't, I wouldn't spend THIS much time on a comment.

    I think of myself as a Bible-believing "Christian mystic". (I concur with your belief that hell is a state-of-mind, BTW.) And in fact, I get the impression that you are today where I was before. I was essentially raised into New Age beliefs; Edgar Cayce and Joel Goldsmith were my spiritual heroes; and I trust you recall my brief testimony about my 5-years of intense devotion to ACIM, which I directed you to a month or so ago. God and Christ "revolutionized" my beliefs beginning in early '94, and by late 2001 I was done with that New Age philosophy, having "seen the Light" about it.

    I'm saying that I think perhaps I have some insight into your outlook. I've been there, too. So anything I say is meant with all due respect; not with a trace of condescension nor "holier-than-thouism".

    Originally, I felt that maybe you were just a little hung-up on semantics; getting bogged down in the minutiae of words and meanings. Recall our earlier discussion where you objected to the use of the word "government" in reference to the un-Constitutional activities of The Wizards or Elite or Illuminati (pick a moniker).

    I explained that in my view sometimes we just have to accept that a word or expression has been co-opted and accede to the new prevailing, commonly acknowledged meaning. I feel that the work ahead is way too big for us to waste time wrangling over minutiae such as semantics. We should just work within the realm of meaning most understood by the masses.

    I think this point is really well illustrated in a short answer penned by G. Edward Griffin in response to a question posed to him by a reader in his most recent edition of 'NEED TO KNOW' (2016, July 2-8). You can go to it and scroll down toward the bottom and read the piece titled (Link...>>) IS THE DOLLAR NOT MONEY?, inspired by the submission from David Caron. But the whole issue is summed up in Griffin's final paragraph:

    "If we attempt to promote the superiority of gold and silver by claiming that dollars are currency but not money, we not only make a factual error, but we create a serious barrier to communication with most people who understand at a gut level that dollars are, indeed, the de facto money of most of the world. We can try to make them say the word ‘currency’, instead, but they know it as money."

    See? And that was my contention about attempting to replace the use of the word "government" with something else meant to imply "the false, usurping body of elites who illegally pose as our authentic government". It just seemed like too much work (and probably unworkable anyway) when there are so many more crucial issues to deal with day-to-day.

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      Now, similarly, I thought you were just getting hung-up on the term "Communism" by always thinking of it in its true, "idealized" sense, rather than accepting the term in the same sense that most of the rest of us do when we use it. I and others use it with the implied "realistic" meaning of the term: a faulty theory leading to brutal, evil, murderous, enslaving dictatorships.

      Because, let's face it, there never has been a true (idealized) secular Communist state. The theory in Communism is that, for various reasons, between the stages of Revolution and Communism there is a Dictatorship phase. But supposedly (for anyone foolish enough to ignore human nature and accept the concept of potential, idealized utopias) the Dictatorship stage will naturally drop away when the true Communist state is ready to function. Yeah, good luck with that. How come it's never yet happened in ANY Communist regime? How come NONE have ever evolved past the Dictatorship stage and into the utopian Communist stage of peace, love, understanding and shared wealth? (The answer is obvious: human nature in a Biblically fallen world.)

      So, I was initially under the impression that you were simply thinking of the term "Communism" too ideally, while we others use the term more realistically (the flawed economic/social philosophy responsible for the brutal murder of about 100 million innocent victims).

      However, your later remark to one of the other commenters here has inclined me to think that you may not have an understanding of the historical foundation of the Communist philosophy. I think you've been misled by someone or various people about the basis for this impossible theory. (Well, Communism -- PURE Communism -- is indeed desirable, and possible, but ONLY by a fully committed, Spiritual community of like-minded people. It cannot be achieved by secular minds. However the Bible indicates that the earliest Christian church, shortly after Christ's Ascension, was indeed Communism in its pure, ideal Spiritual form.)

      A2, you wrote the following:

      >>... Marx was a good guy,
      who basically said that the people who work are more important than the feudal lords that exploit them. Soros is a feudal lord "capitalist" of the worst sort. He just made millions "shorting" Deutchbank which had nothing to do with making, growing or building anything. So I am more confused than ever. How can a raging exploiter and extractor of the fruits of other peoples labor like Soros be a marxist or a communist? I don't even think the terms are really compatible. It's like saying "non violent terrorist" or "fascist socialist."


      >>... I think it is corporatism that is the real evil.

      I'm going to spew a whole bunch of esoteric, factual information in this next section, and then I'll give you a list of some excellent starting points for future reference. These references (and more) will bear out the truthfulness of what I've said if you embark on deeper research to either disprove or confirm it. Even if you set out with the goal of proving it wrong, that will lead you to the hidden truth about it.

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      It wasn't really Karl Marx who conceived of the Communist theory but he most famously popularized it. Marx was an evil man and very likely an outright satanist who was commissioned by shadowy German characters to organize Communist thought into a "Manifesto" for their later use. Little is known about the mysterious Germans but certain facts lead the "smart money" to bet they were members of the Illuminati.

      Secular Communism was expressly designed as a "tool" to be used by the Illuminati (which is primarily International Bankers and/or Freemasons). The Bolshevik Revolution was NOT an uprising by dissatisfied peasants; it was organized by wicked, egomaniacal intellectuals and it was primarily funded by American and British International Bankers (a small group of which even went to Russia to oversee their orchestrated revolution, while posing as international Red Cross representatives concerned about the human suffering).

      Secular Communism has ALWAYS been a demonic deception, a tool or mechanism used by the rich and powerful who are constructing the "New World Order", which is simply a code for Global "One World" Government. They are destroying national sovereignty and replacing it with Global Government on behalf of the satanic "beast" who will arrive to eventually rule over it. (See 'Revelation' in The Holy Bible.)

      HOW is Communism used by the Corporate International Bankers to formulate the NWO? That's too complex a question for a blog comment section. But it's an Hegelian Dialectic device and further study will show how it operates toward achieving that end.

      There have been some well-meaning people who were communists at one time. All of them were "idealists" (idealism sounds great but it's a dangerous, easily deceived mindset) and the smarter ones eventually came to realize that Communism is a hopelessly flawed theory that has led, and always will lead to human misery and mass murder. (For perhaps the best account of this very type of person, read the epic 'WITNESS' by Whittaker Chambers.)

      You might also be interested in reading a book review I wrote about Karl Marx ten years ago:

      (Link...>>) "MARX BELIEVED IN GOD AND HATED HIM" [Page 84]

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      A2, one passage from Karl's 'Manifesto' that I am most fond of quoting is this:

      Marx's Manifesto says, "Communists everywhere SUPPORT EVERY REVOLUTIONARY MOVEMENT AGAINST THE EXISTING SOCIAL AND POLITICAL ORDER OF THINGS. Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible OVERTHROW OF ALL EXISTING SOCIAL CONDITIONS."

      When we look around us, we can see that strategy being played out over and over, everywhere. All concepts of tradition and decency and common sense have been, and are being, replaced by revolutionary ideas that undermine all that was the basis of Western Civilization. It's the same in EVERY category: Economics, Education, Theology, Business, Race Relations, Gender Relations, Entertainment, Sports, Music... you name it! That's not to say that everything was ALWAYS BETTER in the past. But the drastic, EXTREME changes we see taking place are no more organic or natural than were the "cultural revolutions" in Communist nations. All of it was, and IS being deliberately designed to destroy. Because in order to rebuild and construct a New World Order, a fascist global government ruled by Elite wizards behind the curtain, the "old world", the "old ways" must first be demolished.

      Lots and lots of great books out there (and websites, too) but the three books I consider MOST essential (aside from 'THE HOLY BIBLE') are:

      (Link...>>) 'THE CREATURE FROM JEKYLL ISLAND: A Second Look At The Federal Reserve' by G. Edward Griffin
      (Link...>>) 'NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON ...25 YEARS LATER' by John Stormer
      'ONE WORLD' by Tal Brooke

      Anything a person learns about these topics beyond what can be found in those three books is merely a little more icing on the cake. Those three books ARE the cake, and most of the icing, too.

      I hope this helps, Brother.

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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    4. What fun Stephen, thank you. It's my turn to say I will have to wait a bit for a thorough reply.
      I am glad we are on this thread as others might enjoy a conversation of this caliber. Fascinating! I look forward to asking more questions and tapping that knowledge of yours.

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    5. Thanks, A2! And not a problem at all. Take your time, as I also have plenty of other irons in the fire.

      ~ D-FensDogG

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  23. I think Stephen illustrated my premise that the elites want the best of capitalism and want the masses to have the worst of communism. BLM is a communist front which is promoting communism to the young, idealistic and degenerate factions in this society.

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  24. AA: Do you know anything about the early years of Bernie Sanders?

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  25. Stephen: Are you on any Christian blogs?

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    1. Howdy, DAVID ~
      I definitely agree with your Capitalism/Communism viewpoint above. However, to suddenly become a hypocrite and borrow a page from A2's "semantics" argument (Ha!-Ha!), I'm not sure I'd use the word "Capitalism", although I understand what you mean and I agree.

      People now, in general, are so uneducated that they falsely believe that what we have today is Capitalism (with Socialism introduced and overtaking it).

      But really, what we have is Banker-controlled Corporatism. And it's easy to get the uneducated masses to denounce "Capitalism" and cry out for more "Socialism" to replace it, when they've been brainwashed to THINK that the evil Corporatism they endure and suffer under is called "Capitalism".

      This largely explains why so many young people voted for Bernie's Socialism. Because they mistakenly thought Capitalism was bad. Fact is, Capitalism started getting strangled to death and replaced by Corporatism with the inception of the Federal Reserve System in '13.

      I'm sure you already know all this. But I'm mentioning it only to explain why I nearly always call it "Free Enterprise Capitalism" in order to differentiate it from the Corporatism that most people today THINK is Capitalism.

      Actually, I'm not a regular at any Christian blogs. But if you know of some good, interesting ones, I'd be all ears.

      Once in a blue moon I'll drop in at http://www.crisismagazine.com/
      I'm most definitely not Catholic, but they do produce some excellent, intellectual articles at times, which address contemporary social problems.

      In researching topics, I've occasionally found myself at http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/ but that's not a site for comment interaction.

      And once every fourth blue moon I might pop over to Guideposts, but that's pure cotton candy, vanilla ice cream, and white bread fluff with the crust cut off!

      I have a blog of my own (Ferret-Faced Fascist Friends) that I would describe as Spiritual-Political, but I've not been very active on it lately. I have years' worth of (I like to think) good stuffs posted there though, and the comment sections never close.

      This weekend I hope to finish writing, at the request of a friend, the (long-winded) account of how I went from New Age beliefs to a Bible-based understanding.

      I've even considered using that account as the starting point for a new Spirituality-centered blog titled 'In God's Embrace'. Not sure I'll ever really do that, but regardless, I do intend to begin posting regularly again at F-FFF when I get that personal story finished.

      Are you aware of any really worthwhile Christian sites?

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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  26. Unfortunately, I don't think so. I listen to a Bill Fiink podcast from time to time. He has a website called Christogenea or something like this. He's on youtube and he's been interviewed by Don Fox you seems like he is putting all together. Since you recommend books, The Unseen Hand is a primer for people new to understanding this long-winding criminal conspiracy over the ages.

    I do agree for mass consumption to call it capitalism and I agree there is a difference between this and free enterprise entrepreneurialism.

    I think the beast system is here and operational right now. There is a compelling Facebook page about OB being the AC. The guy is a complete spiritual fraud and a fraud of other things. Man of Lawlessness, son of perdition and the father of lies. Does this sound familiar?

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    1. DAVID ~
      Thanks, I will take a look at that website you mentioned.

      Funny that you happened to call attention to (Link...>>) 'THE UNSEEN HAND', as I have the top-rated review for it at BigBitch.com (aka Amazon.scum).

      It was the last review I posted when that website banned me from commenting there anymore.

      Why did they ban me? For the same reason they banned Jim Fetzer's 'Sandy Hook' book: the revealing of too much truth.

      They wouldn't tell me why they were banning me except to say I'd violated their posting guidelines. I repeatedly asked Amazon to show me an example of a comment I'd left that violated their rules. They refused to show me my "crime".

      So, that's when I stopped writing reviews at Amazon.scum (except for a few for personal writer-friends of mine), and I started blogging instead of reviewing.

      A couple years later, a person (STILL) unknown to me but going by the name (Link...>>) EDWARD ("Anonymous" in his first comment) came out of nowhere and commented on my blog. Apparently he'd been following my writing for years. Edward offered his view on why Amazon had banned me:

      "I just wanted to say how much I have enjoyed reading your reviews on Amazon particularly on geo-politics, and especially on McCarthy which I thought was a detailed and very thorough analysis. I was shocked to see that Amazon had gagged you by deleting your brilliant ripostes to the comments aimed at undermining you and your reviews.

      "I think it was inevitable, since all the detritus thrown at you failed to stick, and you kept demolishing the attacks incisively and often with good humour, which served to strengthen your argument, and undermined theirs – no wonder they cut you off. They were beaten. I hope you continue to post on appropriate forums to awaken the useful idiots and expose the ‘NWO’ agents’ lies."


      It made me feel good to know that a mysterious stranger had confirmed my own belief that I'd been banned because I was simply TOO effective at presenting NWO evidence and fighting off all the jackals that attempted to destroy my efforts.

      [That's why I enjoy characters like "little Stevie6Grade". I've got A LOT of experience in dealing with them. It got to the point where they were fun for me. Ha!]

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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