Monday, August 1, 2016

Hillary Clinton uses Sandy Hook false flag to push for gun control

 

As predicted, in her acceptance speech last night at the Democratic National Convention, gun control is Hillary Clinton’s solution for the violence in our streets.
And as predicted, she made use of the 2012 Sandy Hook shooting massacre that took the lives of 20 little children, to manipulate Americans who feel instead of think.
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In her acceptance speechHillary said, referring to Donald Trump’s endorsement by the National Rifle Association (NRA), “And if we’re serious about keeping our country safe, we also can’t afford to have a President who’s in the pocket of the gun lobby.”
To tug at the heartstrings of gullible Americans, Hillary said:
“For decades, people have said this issue was too hard to solve and the politics were too hot to touch. But I ask you: how can we just stand by and do nothing? You heard, you saw, family members of people killed by gun violence.
By “family members of people killed by gun violence,” Hillary was referring toErica Lafferty Smegielski, who was one of the speakers at the Democratic National Convention on Wednesday, July 27.
Erica Smegielski & Hillary Clinton (Getty Image)
Erica Smegielski & Hillary Clinton (Getty Image)
Smegielski is the daughter of slain Sandy Hook Elementary School principal Dawn Hochsprung who, we are told, was the first to be killed by Adam Lanza. Curiously, the dead Hochsprung managed to give an interview about the massacre to Newtown’s local newspaper, Newtown Bee. More curious still is the fact that the cache date of the Bee article featuring Hochsprung’s interview was December 13, a day before the massacre. See:
As recounted by Ricky Campbell for Heavy, July 27, 2016:
Erica Smegielski, the daughter of slain Sandy Hook Elementary School principal Dawn Hochsprung, is joining the likes of former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Connecticut Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy Wednesday at the 2016 Democratic National Convention to tell her story, along with encouraging voters to support nominee Hillary Clinton and her stance on expanding gun controlnationwide.
Smegielski, dedicated to closing gun law loopholes, has appeared in a Clinton ad called “My Mom,” where she says “no more families should have to go through what we have. Hillary Clinton is the only candidate that has what it takes to take on the gun lobby.
According to Heavy, Hillary “has put in a lot of effort this campaign to publicly talk with Sandy Hook families and discuss expanding gun control.”
In that “effort,” Hillary is aided by her willing accomplices in the media, notablyCNN who, 3 days before the Democratic National Convention began, in the space of just one hour, obligingly flooded YouTube with one hundred Sandy Hook videos.

This is the same CNN whose live footage on the day of the Sandy Hook massacre inexplicably shows police and first responders running into an entirely different school than the supposed crime scene, Sandy Hook Elementary School. (See “CNN deception: Live aerial footage of police running into Sandy Hook was of another school“)
Back to Hillary’s acceptance speech last night.
Speaking out of both sides of her mouths, Hillary said:
I’m not here to repeal the 2nd Amendment. I’m not here to take away your guns. I just don’t want you to be shot by someone who shouldn’t have a gun in the first place.
We should be working with responsible gun owners to pass common-sense reforms and keep guns out of the hands of criminals, terrorists and all others who would do us harm.”
But the fact is we already have policies in place which are designed to “keep guns out of the hands of criminals”. It’s called background checks. So what other “common-sense reforms” that would “keep guns out of the hands of criminals” is Hillary proposing — reforms that she claims would not “repeal the 2nd Amendment” by further eroding the gun rights of law-abiding Americans?
Her campaign website affords a better idea of what those “common-sense reforms” means. It promises that “As president, Hillary will” do the following:
  • “Expand background checks to more gun sales—including by closing the gun show and internet sales loopholes—and strengthen the background check system by getting rid of the so-called “Charleston Loophole.”
  • Take on the gun lobby by removing the industry’s sweeping legal protection for illegal and irresponsible actions (which makes it almost impossible for people to hold them accountable), and revoking licenses from dealers who break the law.
  • Keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill by supporting laws that stop domestic abusers from buying and owning guns, making it a federal crime for someone to intentionally buy a gun for a person prohibited from owning one, and closing the loopholes that allow people suffering from severe mental illness to purchase and own guns. She will also support work to keep military-style weapons off our streets.”
Note that none of Hillary’s proposed gun reforms listed above would have prevented the Sandy Hook or the recent Orlando gay-club massacre because:
  1. The alleged lone shooter Adam Lanza’s guns were his mother’s, and Nancy Lanza obtained the guns legally by satisfying all background checks.
  2. The alleged lone shooter of Orlando, Omar Mateen, also obtained his guns legally. In fact, Mateen was an employee of G4S, a huge security firm with a multimillion dollar contract with the Department of Homeland Security to, ironically, identify suspected terrorists.
  3. Neither Lanza nor Mateen was a “domestic abuser,” had a criminal record (violent or not), or “severely mentally ill”.
So why then would Hillary use Sandy Hook to advocate for her proposed gun reforms that would not have prevented the massacre in the first place?
It doesn’t make sense. And, to quote Judge Judy, “If it doesn’t make sense, it isn’t true.”
Please don’t fall for Hillary’s ruse.
The Alternative Media have conducted diligent and exhaustive research on Sandy Hook, showing it was an elaborate false-flag to promote gun control. For exercising their First Amendment right of free speech, the researchers have endured online harassment, abuse, and death threats. Some paid an especially heavy price: film-maker William Shanley was arrested and imprisoned; tenured professor, Dr. James Tracy, was fired by Florida Atlantic University. (See “Sandy Hook: The hounding of Prof. James Tracy”)
For all the posts Fellowship of the Minds has published on this false flag, please go to our “Sandy Hook Massacre” page. See especially:
For the Orlando false-flag, please see our “Orlando Gay-Club Massacre” page, especially:
~Eowyn

25 comments:

  1. Is GUN CONTROL part of the ALIEN AGENDA to enslave and CONTROL humanity? YOU BETCHA!

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  2. Is HELLary-KILLary an integral part of the ALIEN AGENDA, selected for WH-occupancy by Israeli Zionist Slimeballs, aka "Israel Lobby" and AGENTS of the ANCIENT ALIEN RACE of SATAN? YOU BETCHA!

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  3. OK, so Sandy Hook was a hoax.

    Can Drs. Eowyn, Fetzer or others tell me which events they've analyzed with their investigative techniques that turned out NOT to be a hoax?

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  4. OK, so Sandy Hook was a hoax.

    Can Drs. Eowyn, Fetzer or others tell me which events they've analyzed with their investigative techniques that turned out NOT to be a hoax?

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  5. I think Dawn Hoaxsprung is alive and hiding under Erica Smegielski's sweater!

    [Sorry. Sometimes I just can't help muhse'f.]

    ~ D-FensDogG
    'Loyal American Underground'

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  6. STM: Glad to see you back. Did you forget to answer my question about religion?

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  7. STM: Glad to see you back. Did you forget to answer my question about religion?

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    1. Thanks, DAVID!
      No, as far as I knew, I was caught up on all of my replies to folks at this blog. Somehow, I must have missed the question you're referring to here.

      Can you please post a link to the comment section where you posed it and I will go back, find what I missed, and respond to it ASAP. (Or if it's easier for ya, just pose the question for a second time here in THIS comment section.)

      ~ D-FensDogG

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  8. STM: There is a compelling facebook page promoting the view Obama is the AC. Have you heard of Mike Rivero? He this HRC is the AC. The question was about Obama or who you think is the AC. Thanks.

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  9. Howdy, DAVID. Sorry I'm a little slow in my response time, but I've had a few things on my plate the last couple days.

    The name Mike Rivero sounds vaguely familiar. I'll guess I've run across something by him once or twice in the past.

    It definitely can't be HRC because The Bible gives the AC's gender as male.

    I remember that shortly after he was elected in 2008 a lot of people were speculating that BHO was the AC. There was that bit about him being troubled by flies, etc. I thought that was funny and I remember jokingly saying on my own blog that BHO might be the AC. But I was being facetious.

    For a number of reasons I knew that Barack Oliar could not be the AC, but the most important reason, in my opinion, was the fact that he was not nearly persuasive enough. The AC is going to be so charismatic and associated with obvious supernatural power (Revelation 13:13) that for a time he will deceive the entire world.

    To anyone with one lick of sense and two brain cells to rub together and/or some genuine Spiritual discernment, BO was obviously a see-through liar and a 70-IQ stooge who turned into a stammering idiot every time the teleprompter went out. Many people (you and I included) were never never fooled by that guy for even a minute. He didn't have the supernatural charisma and the whole-world-deceiving persuasiveness to be the AC.

    The real AC is not going to need a teleprompter.

    I really have no idea who the AC might be. It's possible that he's here now, waiting in the wings for his unveiling. I think it's also possible that he may simply materialize from seemingly nowhere when his time comes.

    I've read some stuff about him emerging from the Catholic church. I think that's possible but I'm not entirely sold on the idea.

    One thing I do strongly believe though is that his time is coming soon. Years ago I had done some studying into the Biblical End-Times, and by coordinating several prophecies regarding it, I came to the idea that 2029 was a really good, Biblically-educated guess for the Apocalypse / Second Coming.

    Then just a few months ago I stumbled upon this guy's website where he had done his own studies (different from mine) and he came to the strong conviction that the year is 2028.

    I thought that was pretty remarkable that he and I, independent of each other, had conducted our own serious study into the subject using different Biblical material and ended up only one year apart from each other.

    If you're interested, check out some of his stuff. The video movie he put together is pretty amateurish and I haven't made it through the entire thing, but what he's basing his conclusion on is, I think, pretty solid and it's worth considering: (Link>) 2028 END

    And I have no idea if you'd be interested in something highly speculative that I wrote pertaining to the subject 5 years ago, but if so, you can take a look at this when you have time: (Link>) THE "HO BIB" TELLS ME SO

    I have a few other similar Biblically-based writings on my blog as well, but that may just be enough to send you running in the opposite direction. Ha! [:-D

    ~ D-FensDogG
    'Loyal American Underground'

    POSTSCRIPT: This guy (below) also has some interesting posts that I think are worth contemplating. Not sure why I forgot to mention him to you earlier when we were discussing Christian websites: (Link>) NOW THE END BEGINS

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  10. Thanks for your reply. You are one smart person. Other than or including your link, can you share why you think the end of the ages and with it, the end of evil and tyranny comes by 2029? Thanks for all your thoughtful and intellectually stimulating commentary.

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    1. Thanks for the A-list compliment, DAVID! The truth is that I graduated high school with a "C" average. But then in my defense, I wasn't interested in what they wanted to teach me and so I didn't apply myself at all.

      Later, when I found my real interests, I dove in with great attention to detail. And by the Grace of God, I believe I've received some tutoring from His Holy Spirit.

      Over the next few days I'll collect a few examples of things I believe support my view and return to post them here for ya.

      Thanks again!

      ~ D-FensDogG

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    2. Hello, DAVID. Are you still following this comment section? If so, I apologize for my lateness. Sincerely sorry.

      I did NOT forget about my commitment here. Excuses: I have two active blogs of my own with blog installments to write and comments to respond to there; Email correspondence with many people which seems to always have me behind the 8-Ball; I tend to AWII (Argue With Internet Idiots) at various other sites like WND, Breitbart, UNZ, etc.; and to top it all off, I felt pretty sick for about 5 of the last 6 days and have an ongoing health issue that I'm going to have to see a second doctor about.

      So, those are my (valid) asshole excuses for not getting back to you here. But if you're still interested in a reply from me, I will be off from work for the next few days and can get 'er done if yer still tracking this page, Brother.

      ~ D-FensDogG

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  11. Sure, I hope you feel better. I could help you with your blog articles. I don't know about the website UNZ. What is it?

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    1. Thanks, David. Another fitful night of sleep but I feel like I'm gradually moving in the right direction.

      And thanks for the blog help offer too, but the blogs are very small with low readership. I really just need to try keeping up with replies to comments left by a small but loyal group of friends. So it's really just a one-man operation, but that one man needs to be more motivated and a bit healthier.

      http://www.unz.com/

      This is just one of many sites I follow which publishes articles from an assortment of mostly conservative-minded writers (e.g. Pat Buchanan, Fred Reed, etc.)

      The articles there are usually fairly erudite (excepting that idiotic "Ask A Mexican" column), and a recent one about LEOs inspired the latest installment at my own blog.

      Don't give up on me yet and I promise to get an answer to you here about the Biblical prophecy question.

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground'

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    2. Will I get your answer before the end of the ages? I prefer you share the ending before the ending happens.

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    3. DAVID, this will definitely be way, way TMI but... the ailment I alluded to previously prevents me from sitting for long. This has caused me to work on a reply in fits and starts, a little here and a little there. In other words, I've had to write my explanation piecemeal, rather than all at once.

      Unfortunately, the health issue seems to be getting worse and I couldn't find a doctor who would take me, despite having insurance. I finally found one who said yes, but I still won't be able to get in to see him until Sept. 09. It ain't been easy these last couple months, Brother.

      Nevertheless, the good news (not "Gospel", but "good news") is that I think I should be able to complete my comment for you tomorrow morning (my time). It's a good 75% complete now. So, it'll be "soup" soon, I guuuar-annn-teeee.

      ~ D-FensDogG

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  12. I am sorry about your health issues. I hope you feel better so you can shed light on the truth and be a man of loving works.

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    1. PART 1:

      DAVID, I have no way of knowing how much you're already aware of when it comes to Biblical End-Time Prophecies, so if I say some things that seem too obvious and you're thinking "Well, duh!", please don't think I'm trying to insult you. I'm going to articulate some very basic ideas, along with the rest, if not for your benefit, then perhaps for someone who may discover this dialogue later.

      Some of what I am going to write is pretty common knowledge, but it will be sprinkled with some insights derived by me via personal teaching from God's Holy Spirit. I am certain that God will guide anyone by His Holy Spirit if that person opens up to God and is willing to accept, by faith, any guidance wherever it leads.

      As you likely know, most of The Bible has at least two (and in some cases probably three) valid interpretations: 1) that which pertains to the Earth, its history, and the history of mankind upon it. In other words, it applies to man's PHYSICAL being, and 2) a deeper, Spiritual interpretation that applies to God's Spiritual realm, mankind's true identity, which is purely Spiritual, and the process by which we are learning our way out of the physical realm and into the Spiritual realm where we really belong.

      First and foremost, it's important to understand that saint Peter gave us the Divine Key that opens the door to understanding Biblical End-Time Prophecy and the return of Christ Yeshua. In fact, I've read the Bible cover-to-cover about 21 times and, other than Peter, I find no indication that any of the other apostles / saints knew that it would be 2,000 years before Christ's prophesied Second Coming. Peter absolutely knew that because he gave us the key that clearly revealed it. But according to my understanding, it seems that even saint Paul did not know this fact. It looks to me like Paul -- at least until close to the end of his life -- actually believed that he'd be alive to witness the return of Jesus.

      But Peter knew that it was two thousand years off and he all but said so when he gave us the key in 2 Peter 3. He was writing very specifically about the return of Christ, and in part he said:

      2 PETER 3:
      Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle ... that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

      But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


      1 Day = 1 Thousand Years
      1 Thousand Years = 1 Day

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    2. PART 2:

      That is the key to the whole thing.
      But notice how prior to writing the key, Peter was talking about the creation of the Earth. At first glance that might seem to almost be irrelevant to the Second Coming of Christ Yeshua, but it's not. And the reason it's not is because the Genesis Creation account actually ties into the prophetic timeline of Christ's return and the promised 1,000 years of peace (read: Revelation 20).

      Genesis 1 ends by telling us...

      Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

      And Genesis 2 begins...

      Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

      If all of God's creation was completed on the Sixth Day, why was the Seventh Day even mentioned? Why are we told that God "rested" on the Seventh Day, and why did He "sanctify" that day on which He appears to have done nothing but rest? And why aren't we told that he rested on the eighth day, too? And the ninth? The tenth, etc.? In other words, if all of God's work was completed on the sixth day, why bother even mentioning a seventh day?

      Because God established a 7-Day "Week", not an 8-Day or 9-Day week. And it was created as a 7-Day week because 7 DAYS (aka "7 THOUSAND YEARS", remembering Peter's key to the prophetic timeline) is the period which God decreed would represent everything He was to do on Earth, from beginning to end, until He completes this Earthly school system and creates a new Heaven and a new Earth (read: Revelation 21).

      That blogger I'd mentioned before goes into some good detail about the 7 different Thousand Year periods at http://2028end.com/the-math

      He has obviously been taught by The Holy Spirit, and I wasn't even aware of all those correlations. However, the importance of the 7-Thousand Years in the End-Time timeline I've known about for many years.

      God specifically mentioned that He was done creating or "working" after the 6th Day, and on the 7th Day He "rested". When we rest, we are at peace. "Peace" is one synonym for "rest". So what God was telling us is that when we get to the SEVEN THOUSANDTH YEAR PERIOD of Earth's history, it will be A DAY OF PEACE. As Revelation 20 tells us, Jesus is going to put down satan, the anti-Christ and the False Prophet, and they will be "bound" for "a thousand years" of peace on Earth, with Christ Yeshua taking his rightful place as the Holy King and Savior of mankind.

      So, the 7 "Day" Creation story really has a prophecy of Christ's return and millennial reign cloaked within it...

      1 Day = 1 Thousand Years
      1 Thousand Years = 1 Day

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    3. PART 3:

      It's very interesting to consider that the history of mankind on Earth appears to go back only 6 thousand years. If you forget about all the pagan pseudo-science and stick to only what we can know for sure (e.g., the fact that human writing goes back only about 6 thousand years) and consider that the Biblical genealogies for mankind indicate four thousand years from Adam to Jesus, and that it's been about two thousand years since Jesus was Resurrected and Ascended to Heaven, that puts us right now, in these times, at the end of the six thousand years and about to enter that final (7th) thousand year period. The 7th Day of rest, the 7 Thousandth year in which Christ was Biblically promised to be here to rule over a peaceful Earth.

      We are right now on the brink of the most exciting moment that will ever occur on this planet: Armageddon, the return of the Holy Savior, and the vanquishing of satan for a "Day" of rest on Earth.

      But wait! There's more...

      Throughout The Holy Bible there are allusions to the End-Time scenario and clues to the timing of Christ's return. In fact, sometimes The Bible is remarkably precise. For example in Luke 19:28-44, when Jesus presented Himself for the first time as Israel's Holy King, He said: “If you had known, even you, especially in this YOUR DAY, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes."

      He was holding them accountable, for they could have and should have known that very day (April 6) that their prophesied Messiah was going to arrive. Their priests and scribes only needed to do the math in the Daniel 9 prophecy to know that the Man on the donkey was their King and Messiah. Instead, they rejected Him and He became their (and the world's) Eternal Passover Lamb instead.

      So, The Bible don't fool around. Everything we need to know is in there if we study with serious intent and humbly accept teaching from The Holy Spirit.

      We know, of course, that the Old Testament and Jesus Himself prophesied in advance that He would be killed and would be resurrected. And that's just what happened.

      LUKE 24:1-7 says:
      Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared. But they found the stone rolled away from the tomb. Then they went in and did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. And it happened, as they were greatly perplexed about this, that behold, two men stood by them in shining garments. Then, as they were afraid and bowed their faces to the earth, they said to them, “Why do you seek the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen! Remember how He spoke to you when He was still in Galilee, saying, ‘The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.’”

      "THE THIRD DAY RISE AGAIN". This is also a cloaked prophecy about Christ's return. Just as He returned to life and came back to His people after His crucifixion, it was promised that He would return to us, His people, a second time (read: Acts 1: 9-11).

      Here, saint Peter's key comes into play again. 1 Day = 1 Thousand Years; 1 Thousand Years = 1 Day. When did Jesus return to His people after His crucifixion? "The third day" He rose again. In fact, it was on the morning of the third day. How long ago did Jesus ascend into Heaven? 2 thousand years ago (or, 2 "days" ago). When does He return to His people? On the morning of the third day. Today (2016), the Sun is arising on the morning of the third day, or third thousandth "year", since Jesus left us. We should be expecting Him anytime now, just as the Jews should have been expecting Him on that April 6th when He rode the donkey into Jerusalem.

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    4. PART 4:

      There are a number of places throughout The Bible where Christ's Second Coming is alluded to and the timing of it is there to be discovered for people who don't read too quickly and really contemplate a bit deeper everything that is being said. Here's just one example:

      Hosea 6 begins with...

      Come, and let us return to the Lord;
      For He has torn, but He will heal us;
      He has stricken, but He will bind us up.
      After TWO DAYS He will revive us;
      ON THE THIRD DAY He will raise us up,
      That we may live in His sight.


      There's that Day / Year thing again. We have been living without Christ here bodily for two days (two thousand years), and satan has been having a ball during that time as The Bible said he would:

      Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.
      ~Revelation 12:12

      But Hosea tells us that on the 3rd day (during the 3rd thousand year period) Jesus will raise us up (from the influence of the devil) and we will "live in His sight" -- for He will actually be here on Earth with us for that 7th Day (thousand years) of rest from the works of satan.

      There are numerous references to the Apocalypse and Yeshua's Second Coming to be found in The Bible, and some tie into the restoration of Israel as a sovereign nation. Below are some lengthy articles that I think are very much worthwhile reading:

      http://www.therefinersfire.org/jews_return_to_israel.htm

      http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/author-bible-predicted-date-of-israels-return/

      With this third one, all of it warrants consideration, but for our purposes here I will recommend that you initially scroll down and read the section 'This Generation Will Not Pass', from there down to the end of the article:

      http://www.discoverrevelation.com/23.html

      And, DAVID, that's not all!...

      I will conclude this Reader's Digest version of my thinking on this topic by quoting from what I consider to be the best book on Eschatology that I have ever read, (Link>) 'END-TIME PROPHECIES OF THE BIBLE' by David Haggith. I'm sure this must be out of print now but inexpensive used copies are surely available online, and I highly recommend acquiring one.

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    5. PART 5:

      In chapter 22, 'Millennium', David Haggith writes:

      "Though the modern calendar measures years from the birth of Christ ("The year of our Lord", anno Domini, A.D.), it is probably not accurate enough to show exactly when the seventh millennium would begin, but most historians would agree the calendar is within a decade of being accurate on the birth of Christ. Many historians believe the birth of Christ actually happened in about 4 B.C., in which case, the millennium of Christ's reign would have begun in 1996, by the above reasoning, and obviously that did not happen.

      "There's a second caveat: Many historians would insist more than four thousand years occurred between the beginning of human history and Jesus Christ's birth. That may be irrelevant to interpreting the Apocalypse, however, given that the appropriate calendar to use for Biblical revelation would be the Biblical calendar. Even then, there are discrepancies in the Biblical chronologies between various ancient manuscripts where two manuscripts each have different time spans for the same event. The current Jewish Calendar system, for example, shows only 3,760 years before Christ, which would place the beginning of the seventh millennium near the year 2240. Nevertheless, many historians agree Biblical genealogies count back very close to four thousand years before Christ. (Some say exactly four thousand years.)

      "Then why didn't the seventh millennium begin in 1996? Perhaps Christ's life on earth should also be considered an interlude in the time line, so the prophetic clock may not have started ticking again until He left the earth. Jesus' life was certainly an interruption in the flow of human history. Small as the events of His life seemed in His own time, it's not hard to argue they were the biggest interruption history has ever seen in terms of their consequence."

      David, all those years ago when I read that, it really struck a chord with me. Although it's surely speculative, something within me -- The Holy Spirit, I believe -- resonated with the idea that Yeshua's life on Earth was an interruption in the prophetic Apocalyptic timeline. It was like the clock was temporarily stopped, as in a Divine chess match, where God makes His move and then stops the clock. When God received Christ back into Heaven after His resurrection, God hit the Apocalyptic clock again and Earth was back on the Biblical timeline leading us to Christ's Second Coming on the morning of the 7th Day.

      Again, this is speculative. Haggith's idea may be incorrect and I may be wrong in considering it so seriously, but given all the other Biblical prophecies pointing to our time, I really don't think so. Knowing that Jesus Christ lived 33 years, I added those 33 years (stopped clock time) to 1996, and that's how I came up with 2029 as the year of Christ's return.

      What I find fascinating is that a couple of other Bible students whom I've never met nor conversed with have come up with the year 2028 by using other methods derived from Biblical clues.

      It's a very complex topic but I hope this brief explanation has sufficiently illustrated some of the reasons I strongly believe that our Lord will return to us in our own lifetime. There's a whole lot more to this, but I hope this is a decent start. And again I apologize for being in slow-motion. Lately it seems that "slow" is my new "normal".

      ~ D-FensDogG
      'Loyal American Underground

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  13. Thanks for the lengthy reply. Even obvious information is a reinforcement of the truth. I have read recently someone getting to the date of 28/29 like you using the jubilees of 70 jubilees spanning 70 years with the first starting at the time of Jacob and going forward.

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